Comments on: Blackhole SEO: Has Google’s Hegemony Spilled into Twitter? http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/ BizExcellerated Internet Marketing: Achieve mastery in blogging, affiliate marketing, social traffic generation at Andrew Wee Thu, 18 Mar 2010 00:16:44 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Brad West http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-505508 Brad West Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:52:44 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-505508 Hi Andrew, As one that is so pissed about rel="no follow" your site follows the same with all no follow. Since this is a poll http://twitter.com/BradWest has a PR of 4. Yhe rel="no follow" on twitter really doesn't mean that much since most everything is sent through a URL shortener the shortener is getting all the credit not the site anyway. According to Matt Cutts at the SMX conference in Seattle that is happening right now. no follow means very little don't waste your time sweating it. To me that means that the abuse of the rel="no follow" is so excessive that they may have loosened up the algorithm. Of course google won't really hand out all the info, but the Google crew that was With Matt Cutts got real quiet after that question. Now here is a thought for you, there is no harm in using a follow link as long as the link is to relevant information in the post. We have proven this with Sheryl and Cait's blogs. The girls are able to select weather or no to use a no follow link on every post on their sites most links leading out are follow links PR keeps on growing and growing every quarter. Since the system we built concentrates on deep or inside links the inside of the blogs have allot of PR. If you get everything indexed on the inside the PR takes care of itself. From what I got all no follow is a big no, no. Brad West ~ onomoney Hi Andrew,
As one that is so pissed about rel=”no follow” your site follows the same with all no follow.

Since this is a poll http://twitter.com/BradWest has a PR of 4.

Yhe rel=”no follow” on twitter really doesn’t mean that much since most everything is sent through a URL shortener the shortener is getting all the credit not the site anyway.

According to Matt Cutts at the SMX conference in Seattle that is happening right now. no follow means very little don’t waste your time sweating it. To me that means that the abuse of the rel=”no follow” is so excessive that they may have loosened up the algorithm. Of course google won’t really hand out all the info, but the Google crew that was With Matt Cutts got real quiet after that question.

Now here is a thought for you, there is no harm in using a follow link as long as the link is to relevant information in the post. We have proven this with Sheryl and Cait’s blogs. The girls are able to select weather or no to use a no follow link on every post on their sites most links leading out are follow links PR keeps on growing and growing every quarter. Since the system we built concentrates on deep or inside links the inside of the blogs have allot of PR.

If you get everything indexed on the inside the PR takes care of itself.
From what I got all no follow is a big no, no.
Brad West ~ onomoney

]]> By: Steve Plunkett http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502416 Steve Plunkett Thu, 05 Mar 2009 06:23:34 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502416 Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts on the matter. Thank you for sharing your detailed thoughts on the matter.

]]> By: proson http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502405 proson Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:11:44 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502405 Well Andrew you have the point. Perhaps those people are selfish and/or afraid of being punished by Google. But to me I'll go to sites that give me link juice. If facebook, myspace, twitter is going to hard on marketers, than sooner or later there are other platforms that will be marketer friendly. That's what I think and hope... Well Andrew you have the point. Perhaps those people are selfish and/or afraid of being punished by Google. But to me I’ll go to sites that give me link juice. If facebook, myspace, twitter is going to hard on marketers, than sooner or later there are other platforms that will be marketer friendly.

That’s what I think and hope…

]]> By: There’s More To Life Than Links & Sex http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502404 There’s More To Life Than Links & Sex Wed, 04 Mar 2009 17:03:42 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502404 [...] Wee coined the term “blackhole SEO” for sites like Twitter and eBay that pass no link [...] [...] Wee coined the term “blackhole SEO” for sites like Twitter and eBay that pass no link [...]

]]> By: Kashif http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502397 Kashif Wed, 04 Mar 2009 07:30:16 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502397 That's pretty interesting concept. Just checked PR of my profile and it shows 4, which is not too bad I guess. Wondering how we can benefit from it. That’s pretty interesting concept. Just checked PR of my profile and it shows 4, which is not too bad I guess. Wondering how we can benefit from it.

]]> By: DoFollow or NoFollow?: The “I Can Has Backlink” Dilemma | Andrew Wee | Blogging | Affiliate Marketing | Social Traffic Generation | Internet Marketing http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502394 DoFollow or NoFollow?: The “I Can Has Backlink” Dilemma | Andrew Wee | Blogging | Affiliate Marketing | Social Traffic Generation | Internet Marketing Wed, 04 Mar 2009 03:59:52 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502394 [...] Blackhole SEO: Has Google’s Hegemony Spilled into Twitter? [...] [...] Blackhole SEO: Has Google’s Hegemony Spilled into Twitter? [...]

]]> By: How much brand equity do you place in twitter? | Rob Hammond's Blog http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502389 How much brand equity do you place in twitter? | Rob Hammond's Blog Tue, 03 Mar 2009 22:43:48 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502389 [...] inclined to agree on some level, and there is a gaping black hole emerging. It is undeniable there is value in connecting with customers on a personal basis; however [...] [...] inclined to agree on some level, and there is a gaping black hole emerging. It is undeniable there is value in connecting with customers on a personal basis; however [...]

]]> By: SEO Book.com http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502358 SEO Book.com Tue, 03 Mar 2009 05:05:16 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502358 <strong>How Much of YOUR PageRank Are You Wasting on Twitter?...</strong> ... How Much of YOUR PageRank Are You Wasting on Twitter?…

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]]> By: joshua http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502357 joshua Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:53:25 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502357 @strebel = PR5 :( @strebel = PR5

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]]> By: Evan http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502356 Evan Tue, 03 Mar 2009 04:43:27 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502356 It benefits Google to count links from Twitter. If a lot of Twitter users are linking to a certain page, it seems likely that page would be useful to Google users searching for similar content. It also benefits Google for everyone to think links from Twitter don't count. If spammers begin tweeting up a storm, it will make it much more difficult to sift out the good stuff from the sea of spam. So it seems we have a good thing going and it would be best not to mess it up, so shhhhh :) That said, I think the most interesting piece of this is anchor text. With most links going through URL shortening services, does Google determine relevancy through the tweet (in other words the content around the link) rather than the link anchor text? What other factors might be used to determine keyword relevancy? P.S. I found this through Twitter - seems like I found it useful, maybe the link I used should pass some juice :) It benefits Google to count links from Twitter. If a lot of Twitter users are linking to a certain page, it seems likely that page would be useful to Google users searching for similar content.

It also benefits Google for everyone to think links from Twitter don’t count. If spammers begin tweeting up a storm, it will make it much more difficult to sift out the good stuff from the sea of spam.

So it seems we have a good thing going and it would be best not to mess it up, so shhhhh :)

That said, I think the most interesting piece of this is anchor text. With most links going through URL shortening services, does Google determine relevancy through the tweet (in other words the content around the link) rather than the link anchor text? What other factors might be used to determine keyword relevancy?

P.S. I found this through Twitter – seems like I found it useful, maybe the link I used should pass some juice :)

]]> By: Chris Monty http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/social-traffic/blackhole-seo-has-googles-hegemony-spilled-into-twitter/comment-page-1/#comment-502354 Chris Monty Tue, 03 Mar 2009 03:28:30 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/?p=748#comment-502354 Good catch. I've just noticed that my profile (http://www.twitter.com/ChrisMonty - and no, I don't normally link to it) is now a PR 4. Intereting. Good catch. I’ve just noticed that my profile (http://www.twitter.com/ChrisMonty – and no, I don’t normally link to it) is now a PR 4. Intereting.

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