Comments on: How Dominant Should Wikipedia in Google’s World? http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/ BizExcellerated Internet Marketing: Achieve mastery in blogging, affiliate marketing, social traffic generation at Andrew Wee Fri, 12 Mar 2010 19:14:02 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-6389 Carsten Cumbrowski Thu, 01 Feb 2007 22:10:50 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/#comment-6389 The thing with that is that it is speculation. Some say it is the domain, others say what I said. It's not very easy to prove, one way or the other, because goDaddy is currently out of mint fresh .gov and .edu domains for the general population :) The thing with that is that it is speculation. Some say it is the domain, others say what I said. It’s not very easy to prove, one way or the other, because goDaddy is currently out of mint fresh .gov and .edu domains for the general population :)

]]> By: Andrew Wee http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-6361 Andrew Wee Thu, 01 Feb 2007 17:15:29 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/#comment-6361 Good clarification. Yes, .gov, .edu, .mil sites have quality content and would score better on that metric. It's be interesting to see if you did a series on domains and SEO implications at cumbrowski.com Good clarification.

Yes, .gov, .edu, .mil sites have quality content and would score better on that metric.

It’s be interesting to see if you did a series on domains and SEO implications at cumbrowski.com

]]> By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-6356 Carsten Cumbrowski Thu, 01 Feb 2007 15:40:57 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/#comment-6356 hey andrew, there is no proof that .gov or .edu domains are treated special. Meaning, if I would get an .edu domain today and build a site on top of it (new domain), would the simple fact that the domain ends with .edu not help me. sites on .EDU and .GOV domains are usually authority sites, have a lot of good and/or relevant content and tons of inbound links and thus rank well. But the same is true for .com sites, such as wikipedia. That crap in wikipedia ranks often higher than good content is because of the weight of the domain as a whole where the crap pages resides on is today a relevant ranking factor. There is a reason why SE do that, but it has obvious flaws as the wikipedia example shows. Wikipedia is a good example, but not the only one. IMDB ranks high already, higher than wikipedia, but for terms that are related to IMDB. Search for "clint eastwood" for example. IMDB is no.1, wikipedia 3 (if you discount the indented results) or "box office". IMDB 5. and wikipedia nowhere to be found on page 1. hey andrew, there is no proof that .gov or .edu domains are treated special. Meaning, if I would get an .edu domain today and build a site on top of it (new domain), would the simple fact that the domain ends with .edu not help me.

sites on .EDU and .GOV domains are usually authority sites, have a lot of good and/or relevant content and tons of inbound links and thus rank well. But the same is true for .com sites, such as wikipedia.

That crap in wikipedia ranks often higher than good content is because of the weight of the domain as a whole where the crap pages resides on is today a relevant ranking factor. There is a reason why SE do that, but it has obvious flaws as the wikipedia example shows.

Wikipedia is a good example, but not the only one.

IMDB ranks high already, higher than wikipedia, but for terms that are related to IMDB. Search for “clint eastwood” for example. IMDB is no.1, wikipedia 3 (if you discount the indented results) or “box office”. IMDB 5. and wikipedia nowhere to be found on page 1.

]]> By: Andrew Wee http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-6348 Andrew Wee Thu, 01 Feb 2007 13:01:22 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/#comment-6348 Carsten, Thanks for your feedback. If you read my post again, I wasn't questioning the quality of information of the Wiki entry, but rather the dominance of wiki entries compared to other results. Would the PageRank and corresponding SERP algorithmn give Wiki entries the same status accorded to .gov and .edu domains? If so, then as Rand pointed out, should IMDB also have higher rankings, compared to Wikis? I just find that it's disturbing that the Wiki entries seem to dominant for several keywords and keyphrases. I'm sure you've had the experience of seeing entries where quality entries have been replaced by inferior entries containing hyperlinks by unscrupulous individuals attempting to game Wikipedia. --- As for Page Strength, the composition of the score and corresponding breakdown of the backlinks and .gov and .edu links are equally or more instructional than the Page Strength aggregate score. Carsten,
Thanks for your feedback.

If you read my post again, I wasn’t questioning the quality of information of the Wiki entry, but rather the dominance of wiki entries compared to other results.

Would the PageRank and corresponding SERP algorithmn give Wiki entries the same status accorded to .gov and .edu domains?

If so, then as Rand pointed out, should IMDB also have higher rankings, compared to Wikis?

I just find that it’s disturbing that the Wiki entries seem to dominant for several keywords and keyphrases. I’m sure you’ve had the experience of seeing entries where quality entries have been replaced by inferior entries containing hyperlinks by unscrupulous individuals attempting to game Wikipedia.

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As for Page Strength, the composition of the score and corresponding breakdown of the backlinks and .gov and .edu links are equally or more instructional than the Page Strength aggregate score.

]]> By: Carsten Cumbrowski http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/comment-page-1/#comment-6340 Carsten Cumbrowski Thu, 01 Feb 2007 11:55:22 +0000 http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/search-engine-optmization-seo/wikipedia-google-dominant-seo/#comment-6340 Hi Andrew, Did you have a look at the Wikipedia article to affiliate marketing? Several affiliate marketers and other editors worked on the article for months and extended it more and more. Don't you think that it is a good place to start to learn about affiliate marketing? Which single page on the web would you prefer over it? It's funny that you mentioned the Page Strength tool. <a href="http://www.revenews.com/carstencumbrowski/2006/07/how_strong_are_your_website_pa.html" rel="nofollow">My first post</a> at ReveNews.com was about it. You might find it a useful read. I am sorry that we did not meet at the Summit, but there were so much people, I even barely meet people with whom I wanted to talk a bit more before I got there. Well, next time :) Hi Andrew,

Did you have a look at the Wikipedia article to affiliate marketing? Several affiliate marketers and other editors worked on the article for months and extended it more and more. Don’t you think that it is a good place to start to learn about affiliate marketing? Which single page on the web would you prefer over it?

It’s funny that you mentioned the Page Strength tool. My first post at ReveNews.com was about it. You might find it a useful read.

I am sorry that we did not meet at the Summit, but there were so much people, I even barely meet people with whom I wanted to talk a bit more before I got there. Well, next time :)

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