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	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 04:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Clinton Election 2008</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-473007</link>
		<dc:creator>Clinton Election 2008</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jan 2008 08:56:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>akismet works pretty well for me....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>akismet works pretty well for me&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Teli Adlam</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-472157</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli Adlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I am a little concerned about people leaving links to product sales sites though.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Before I leave my own links, I always stop and think to myself first "would I allow this link in a comment left on my blog?" If the answer's no, then I'd change it to something else.

Generally, I check to see two things with the sales page in the link:


Does the site contain annoying pop ups or pop unders?
Does the sales site belong to the person leaving the comment or is it an affiliate redirect?*


If the answer to either of the above questions is true, then I remove the link altogether. 

*I don't know why, but I have a pet peeve with people trying to promote affiliate links within the comments -- well, actually, I don't mind if they promote affiliate links that are relevant. What I don't like is when people explicitly try to hijack your entry (which contains your affiliate links) with their own affiliate links. LOL

I've also found that a lot of people dropping links to product shopping sites tend to use anchor text like "brand name shoes" after their name and are probably, most likely, paid comments. Definitely unacceptable. 

~ Teli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I am a little concerned about people leaving links to product sales sites though.</p></blockquote>
<p>Before I leave my own links, I always stop and think to myself first &#8220;would I allow this link in a comment left on my blog?&#8221; If the answer&#8217;s no, then I&#8217;d change it to something else.</p>
<p>Generally, I check to see two things with the sales page in the link:</p>
<p>Does the site contain annoying pop ups or pop unders?<br />
Does the sales site belong to the person leaving the comment or is it an affiliate redirect?*</p>
<p>If the answer to either of the above questions is true, then I remove the link altogether. </p>
<p>*I don&#8217;t know why, but I have a pet peeve with people trying to promote affiliate links within the comments &#8212; well, actually, I don&#8217;t mind if they promote affiliate links that are relevant. What I don&#8217;t like is when people explicitly try to hijack your entry (which contains your affiliate links) with their own affiliate links. LOL</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve also found that a lot of people dropping links to product shopping sites tend to use anchor text like &#8220;brand name shoes&#8221; after their name and are probably, most likely, paid comments. Definitely unacceptable. </p>
<p>~ Teli</p>
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		<title>By: Teli Adlam</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-472155</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli Adlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for that clarification, Andrew. I wasn't certain because I didn't see the comment posted with a note that it was waiting for moderation. :)

~ Teli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for that clarification, Andrew. I wasn&#8217;t certain because I didn&#8217;t see the comment posted with a note that it was waiting for moderation. <img src='http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>~ Teli</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-472139</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Teli,
Definitely, communication is a 2way process, if you're throwing in an "uh huh", "wow", "great" comment, and especially if your return URL is a Viagra4You[dot]com, It's go into the trash for sure.

I am a little concerned about people leaving links to product sales sites though.

If a friend (like you), puts one in, I'll probably let it get in.

But if it's someone I don't recognize sticking in a MFA (Made for adsense) site, it'd go in the bin. Unless they had some outstanding content.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Teli,<br />
Definitely, communication is a 2way process, if you&#8217;re throwing in an &#8220;uh huh&#8221;, &#8220;wow&#8221;, &#8220;great&#8221; comment, and especially if your return URL is a Viagra4You[dot]com, It&#8217;s go into the trash for sure.</p>
<p>I am a little concerned about people leaving links to product sales sites though.</p>
<p>If a friend (like you), puts one in, I&#8217;ll probably let it get in.</p>
<p>But if it&#8217;s someone I don&#8217;t recognize sticking in a MFA (Made for adsense) site, it&#8217;d go in the bin. Unless they had some outstanding content.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-472138</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 13:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Teli,
Actually your comments were held for moderation. I don't have auto approval enabled, else I'd have to do a whole ton of retroactive cleanup.

Thanks for your thoughts!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Teli,<br />
Actually your comments were held for moderation. I don&#8217;t have auto approval enabled, else I&#8217;d have to do a whole ton of retroactive cleanup.</p>
<p>Thanks for your thoughts!</p>
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		<title>By: Teli Adlam</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-471922</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli Adlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 19:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL. Just wrote an entire blog entry on Akismet accidentally marking legitimate comments as spam and I think it just did it to me. Andrew, would you mind fishing out my comment if that's the case?

Thanks,
~ Teli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL. Just wrote an entire blog entry on Akismet accidentally marking legitimate comments as spam and I think it just did it to me. Andrew, would you mind fishing out my comment if that&#8217;s the case?</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
~ Teli</p>
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		<title>By: Teli Adlam</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-471921</link>
		<dc:creator>Teli Adlam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jan 2008 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As someone who gets, literally, 1,000-1,500 spam comments to one of my blogs &lt;em&gt;each day&lt;/em&gt;, I certainly understand Shawn's need for the additional spam filters.

Not too long ago, I wrote an article about Akismet and the necessity of scanning the queue for any false positives, but one of the key points was: &lt;strong&gt;Who wants to trawl through thousands of comments for that one lonely false positive&lt;/strong&gt;?

Andrew, you couldn't have been more right with your post. I've seen one too many "nice job, this helped me a lot" comments waiting for me in my moderation queue. Frankly, I've dubbed it human submitted spam because &lt;em&gt;someone&lt;/em&gt; had to answer the challenge question I have up.

It's the commenter's responsibility to use &lt;em&gt;common sense&lt;/em&gt; when interacting on the web. Unfortunately, too many people are in too much of a hurry to leave a well thought out comment. Their main objective is just to get the backlink. *sigh*

~ Teli</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As someone who gets, literally, 1,000-1,500 spam comments to one of my blogs <em>each day</em>, I certainly understand Shawn&#8217;s need for the additional spam filters.</p>
<p>Not too long ago, I wrote an article about Akismet and the necessity of scanning the queue for any false positives, but one of the key points was: <strong>Who wants to trawl through thousands of comments for that one lonely false positive</strong>?</p>
<p>Andrew, you couldn&#8217;t have been more right with your post. I&#8217;ve seen one too many &#8220;nice job, this helped me a lot&#8221; comments waiting for me in my moderation queue. Frankly, I&#8217;ve dubbed it human submitted spam because <em>someone</em> had to answer the challenge question I have up.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s the commenter&#8217;s responsibility to use <em>common sense</em> when interacting on the web. Unfortunately, too many people are in too much of a hurry to leave a well thought out comment. Their main objective is just to get the backlink. *sigh*</p>
<p>~ Teli</p>
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		<title>By: Razlan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Razlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess, yes, the number of comments awaiting moderation on a daily basis will play a big role. Right now, Askimet is sufficient for my use. It is a pity, really, if value-adding comments are unknowingly marked as spam by the various filters we use.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, yes, the number of comments awaiting moderation on a daily basis will play a big role. Right now, Askimet is sufficient for my use. It is a pity, really, if value-adding comments are unknowingly marked as spam by the various filters we use.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:02:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Giving your visitors a good user experience is key to building a relationship with your friends and future customers.

If you overdeliver, naturally they'll ask what you have for sale because they want to get more of you.

At least that's the way it's worked out for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Giving your visitors a good user experience is key to building a relationship with your friends and future customers.</p>
<p>If you overdeliver, naturally they&#8217;ll ask what you have for sale because they want to get more of you.</p>
<p>At least that&#8217;s the way it&#8217;s worked out for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 05:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Razlan,
Depends on your traffic.

When you see 500+ comments for moderation each day, that's a sign that it's time for more spam filter plugins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Razlan,<br />
Depends on your traffic.</p>
<p>When you see 500+ comments for moderation each day, that&#8217;s a sign that it&#8217;s time for more spam filter plugins.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-471309</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 04:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Shawn,

Yes, it's a challenge to balance between the "freedom of the internet" and the junk that gets through the filters.

Maybe Jason Calacanis might have some solutions at his Affiliate Summit West keynote next month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Shawn,</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s a challenge to balance between the &#8220;freedom of the internet&#8221; and the junk that gets through the filters.</p>
<p>Maybe Jason Calacanis might have some solutions at his Affiliate Summit West keynote next month.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Collins</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-471079</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Collins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Razlan

I guess it depends on your threshold for pain. :-)

I use Akismet, Bad Behavior and Did You Pass Math?

I started with just Akismet, and it got to the point where I was reviewing hundreds of spam comments a day.

So I added Did You Pass Math? and for a while there was no problem. But a couple months ago, I started getting hit hard with those two plugins.

I added Bad Behavior to the mix, and now I get very little spam.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Razlan</p>
<p>I guess it depends on your threshold for pain. <img src='http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I use Akismet, Bad Behavior and Did You Pass Math?</p>
<p>I started with just Akismet, and it got to the point where I was reviewing hundreds of spam comments a day.</p>
<p>So I added Did You Pass Math? and for a while there was no problem. But a couple months ago, I started getting hit hard with those two plugins.</p>
<p>I added Bad Behavior to the mix, and now I get very little spam.</p>
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		<title>By: Razlan</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-471007</link>
		<dc:creator>Razlan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:07:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, three spam filters? Wouldn't that be over doing it? I am just using Askimet and it seems to work fine for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, three spam filters? Wouldn&#8217;t that be over doing it? I am just using Askimet and it seems to work fine for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Lexus ISF</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-470953</link>
		<dc:creator>Lexus ISF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah andrew, some of my users comments are caught in the anti-spam filter. Tough to solve...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah andrew, some of my users comments are caught in the anti-spam filter. Tough to solve&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrus</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/blogging/is-blog-commenting-obsolete-some-ideas-on-social-marketing/#comment-470646</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 21:05:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew, here's my obsolete comment...
I'm going to be launching my first CB offer and I'm hoping to be able to promote it across these kinds of mediums but I certainly don't want to continually seem spammy.  I supposed focusing on adding value is never a bad way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew, here&#8217;s my obsolete comment&#8230;<br />
I&#8217;m going to be launching my first CB offer and I&#8217;m hoping to be able to promote it across these kinds of mediums but I certainly don&#8217;t want to continually seem spammy.  I supposed focusing on adding value is never a bad way to go.</p>
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