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		<title>By: Adrian Singer</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/affiliate-marketing/spybot-affiliate-marketing-menace/#comment-139117</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian Singer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jul 2007 16:28:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for bringing this up.  There's nothing we can do as affiliates about cookies being blocked or Javascript disabled, but there is a way to make sure we don't suffer from this problem and get paid for our efforts.

I wrote a follow-up inspired by this article here: http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/conversion-traffic-to-cash/t-affiliate-tracking-system-is-flawed-1361.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for bringing this up.  There&#8217;s nothing we can do as affiliates about cookies being blocked or Javascript disabled, but there is a way to make sure we don&#8217;t suffer from this problem and get paid for our efforts.</p>
<p>I wrote a follow-up inspired by this article here: <a href="http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/conversion-traffic-to-cash/t-affiliate-tracking-system-is-flawed-1361.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.softwareprojects.com/resources/conversion-traffic-to-cash/t-affiliate-tracking-system-is-flawed-1361.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ted</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ted</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have to evolve to survive. I appreciate your attitude. Focus and determination will win everytime. Concentrating on closing the sale immediately is sound advice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have to evolve to survive. I appreciate your attitude. Focus and determination will win everytime. Concentrating on closing the sale immediately is sound advice.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn Richards</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/affiliate-marketing/spybot-affiliate-marketing-menace/#comment-5283</link>
		<dc:creator>Shawn Richards</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 16:38:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are missing the "big picture" and the crucial problem with Spybot.  Forget the cookie issue, Spybot completely blocks Commission Junction urls in the imported hosts list.

What is the point of that?  CJ isn't a spyware site and they certainly don't allow spyware/adware related sales.

Why kill off revenue streams for affiliates by completely blocking access to legitimate websites?

Spybot is a great product for cleaning malware but they are just as bad as the overzealous spam blocking admins who don't check the real source of the problem before blocking a domain.

Before SaferNetworking makes a comment about "their duty to protect the community" just think about this; without referrals and backlinks, where would Spybot be today?

Come on people, stop running around screaming "the sky is falling" and concentrate on the real problem sources.  If you were all that worried about your privacy on the Internet, you wouldn't be using another business that has your personal information and logs your activity when you get connected.  The Internet doesn't exist anymore, it has been replaced by a myriad of privately owned networks using the original Internet protocol.  Malicious software writers exist, target them, don't attack the revenue streams that support the Internet community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are missing the &#8220;big picture&#8221; and the crucial problem with Spybot.  Forget the cookie issue, Spybot completely blocks Commission Junction urls in the imported hosts list.</p>
<p>What is the point of that?  CJ isn&#8217;t a spyware site and they certainly don&#8217;t allow spyware/adware related sales.</p>
<p>Why kill off revenue streams for affiliates by completely blocking access to legitimate websites?</p>
<p>Spybot is a great product for cleaning malware but they are just as bad as the overzealous spam blocking admins who don&#8217;t check the real source of the problem before blocking a domain.</p>
<p>Before SaferNetworking makes a comment about &#8220;their duty to protect the community&#8221; just think about this; without referrals and backlinks, where would Spybot be today?</p>
<p>Come on people, stop running around screaming &#8220;the sky is falling&#8221; and concentrate on the real problem sources.  If you were all that worried about your privacy on the Internet, you wouldn&#8217;t be using another business that has your personal information and logs your activity when you get connected.  The Internet doesn&#8217;t exist anymore, it has been replaced by a myriad of privately owned networks using the original Internet protocol.  Malicious software writers exist, target them, don&#8217;t attack the revenue streams that support the Internet community.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Dec 2006 22:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John:
the only way to know is to test it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John:<br />
the only way to know is to test it out.</p>
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		<title>By: John Tan</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/affiliate-marketing/spybot-affiliate-marketing-menace/#comment-1683</link>
		<dc:creator>John Tan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 03:49:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am sure that a way out. Worry will cause us not to do anything but anyway how many of you are using the spybot before Andrew mention about it. I guess there are still lot of people out there that are not that IT savvy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am sure that a way out. Worry will cause us not to do anything but anyway how many of you are using the spybot before Andrew mention about it. I guess there are still lot of people out there that are not that IT savvy.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
		<link>http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/affiliate-marketing/spybot-affiliate-marketing-menace/#comment-1590</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Dec 2006 00:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SaferNetworking: 

Hey, I wanted to say I find Spybot to be a good piece of software.
I've been using it on my personal computers for at least the past 2+ years.

Spybot picks up stuff that Ad-Aware doesn't detect and I like the immunization capabilities for your software.

Till recently, Azoogle and Clickbank cookies were not registered as tracking cookies (or as i call them spyware) till the more recent updates.

The end result is still the same though.
If a user decides to delete the cookie, the affiliate does not get credit for the transaction.

I suspect most will delete the tracking cookies unless they were flagged as 'neutral' instead of appearing in the "Problem" window.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SaferNetworking: </p>
<p>Hey, I wanted to say I find Spybot to be a good piece of software.<br />
I&#8217;ve been using it on my personal computers for at least the past 2+ years.</p>
<p>Spybot picks up stuff that Ad-Aware doesn&#8217;t detect and I like the immunization capabilities for your software.</p>
<p>Till recently, Azoogle and Clickbank cookies were not registered as tracking cookies (or as i call them spyware) till the more recent updates.</p>
<p>The end result is still the same though.<br />
If a user decides to delete the cookie, the affiliate does not get credit for the transaction.</p>
<p>I suspect most will delete the tracking cookies unless they were flagged as &#8216;neutral&#8217; instead of appearing in the &#8220;Problem&#8221; window.</p>
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		<title>By: SaferNetworkingLtd</title>
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		<dc:creator>SaferNetworkingLtd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 16:25:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find the wording a bit funny... where's the "now" when Spybot-S&#38;D detects it for more than 3 years already?

And why do you quote it as "spyware", when Spybot-S&#38;D tells you quite clearly (just open the description panel at the right) that those are Tracking Cookies, not Spyware?

Please also not that this is on massive user request. Whenever we tried to remove those, users were getting on our roofs complaining that other software detects those, but ours not. Funnily, it's actually the in later comments named Adaware which started this behaviour, which misnamed Alexa, etc. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the wording a bit funny&#8230; where&#8217;s the &#8220;now&#8221; when Spybot-S&amp;D detects it for more than 3 years already?</p>
<p>And why do you quote it as &#8220;spyware&#8221;, when Spybot-S&amp;D tells you quite clearly (just open the description panel at the right) that those are Tracking Cookies, not Spyware?</p>
<p>Please also not that this is on massive user request. Whenever we tried to remove those, users were getting on our roofs complaining that other software detects those, but ours not. Funnily, it&#8217;s actually the in later comments named Adaware which started this behaviour, which misnamed Alexa, etc. <img src='http://www.whoisandrewwee.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: spybot cracking down on affiliate cookies - WickedFire - Internet Marketing Affiliate Webmaster Forum</title>
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		<dc:creator>spybot cracking down on affiliate cookies - WickedFire - Internet Marketing Affiliate Webmaster Forum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:50:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] spybot cracking down on affiliate cookies     anti-spyware app spybot's latest patches detect and destroy cookies from azoogle, clickbank, doubleclick.  so take note.  i blogged abt it here: The Silent Affiliate Marketing Menace: Spybot at Andrew Wee &#124; Blogging &#124; Affiliate Marketing &#124; Social Traffic Generation &#124; Internet Marketing    __________________ Andrew Wee Blogging and Affiliate Marketing [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] spybot cracking down on affiliate cookies     anti-spyware app spybot&#8217;s latest patches detect and destroy cookies from azoogle, clickbank, doubleclick.  so take note.  i blogged abt it here: The Silent Affiliate Marketing Menace: Spybot at Andrew Wee | Blogging | Affiliate Marketing | Social Traffic Generation | Internet Marketing    __________________ Andrew Wee Blogging and Affiliate Marketing [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Dollar Factory Blog &#187; Around the web on December 11th</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Dollar Factory Blog &#187; Around the web on December 11th</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 03:50:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] In the meantime, Jeremy (Shoemoney.com) informed us that Andrew Wee (whoisandrewwee.com) found out that the Spybot Search And Destroy spyware removal software deletes Azoogleads and Clickbank affiliate marketer cookies. I understand how this is bad news for affiliate marketers, including myself, but seriously I donâ€™t get what the big fuss is about. Have people been living under the illusion that cookies are a bullet proof method for guaranteeing affiliate sales? In case people have not noticed all these years, it is rather trivial to set your web browser to delete cookies when closed or just decline them all together. On the positive side, testing shows that Adaware leaves affiliate cookies untouched so start pitching Adaware to your friends and family. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] In the meantime, Jeremy (Shoemoney.com) informed us that Andrew Wee (whoisandrewwee.com) found out that the Spybot Search And Destroy spyware removal software deletes Azoogleads and Clickbank affiliate marketer cookies. I understand how this is bad news for affiliate marketers, including myself, but seriously I donâ€™t get what the big fuss is about. Have people been living under the illusion that cookies are a bullet proof method for guaranteeing affiliate sales? In case people have not noticed all these years, it is rather trivial to set your web browser to delete cookies when closed or just decline them all together. On the positive side, testing shows that Adaware leaves affiliate cookies untouched so start pitching Adaware to your friends and family. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Spybot Killing Affiliates, 007 Style &#183; Profit Geek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spybot Killing Affiliates, 007 Style &#183; Profit Geek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Dec 2006 02:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] This is just something to be aware of, because the James Bond of spyware may be coming for you. Hopefully Spybot fixes this problem soon. Check out this blog post for more information on the subject. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This is just something to be aware of, because the James Bond of spyware may be coming for you. Hopefully Spybot fixes this problem soon. Check out this blog post for more information on the subject. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 02:48:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don: There's always challenges in whatever business you're in.

the thing is whether you'll choose to be problem-focused, or solution-focused and take appropriate action.

even with brick and mortar retail, they have challenges like bad/stolen credit cards, shoplifting, fire/flood damage.

It's tempting to say the grass is greener on the other side, but more important to stay the course in what we're doing and achieve results.

Too many people give up as they're reaching their pinnacle of success.

the saddest thing is that many never know how close they truly were to making it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don: There&#8217;s always challenges in whatever business you&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>the thing is whether you&#8217;ll choose to be problem-focused, or solution-focused and take appropriate action.</p>
<p>even with brick and mortar retail, they have challenges like bad/stolen credit cards, shoplifting, fire/flood damage.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s tempting to say the grass is greener on the other side, but more important to stay the course in what we&#8217;re doing and achieve results.</p>
<p>Too many people give up as they&#8217;re reaching their pinnacle of success.</p>
<p>the saddest thing is that many never know how close they truly were to making it.</p>
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		<title>By: Don Wilson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2006 01:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a little scary.  As a blogger who depends on affiliate products, that could take away my lifeblood.  Just yesterday, I was explaining how affiliate marketing works and her first question was, "How can you be sure that you will get paid?"  I assured her that since I go through clickbank as an intermediary, there should be no problem.  Now, I'm not so sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a little scary.  As a blogger who depends on affiliate products, that could take away my lifeblood.  Just yesterday, I was explaining how affiliate marketing works and her first question was, &#8220;How can you be sure that you will get paid?&#8221;  I assured her that since I go through clickbank as an intermediary, there should be no problem.  Now, I&#8217;m not so sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Wee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Wee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 14:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Matthias,
you'd likely have to check with the companies themselves.

do note that i'm referring to spyware/malware detectors here.

anti-virus is a different class of software altogether.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Matthias,<br />
you&#8217;d likely have to check with the companies themselves.</p>
<p>do note that i&#8217;m referring to spyware/malware detectors here.</p>
<p>anti-virus is a different class of software altogether.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthias Jash</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthias Jash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2006 13:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wau~ It's sound worry for those affiliate marketer, will this kind of spyware function apply to the most popular Anti Virus like Norton, McAfee or even Windows system itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wau~ It&#8217;s sound worry for those affiliate marketer, will this kind of spyware function apply to the most popular Anti Virus like Norton, McAfee or even Windows system itself?</p>
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